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		<title>By: Chris Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was mostly responding to the comments, Jeremy.  Also, blogging about political topics is not done to create business but to raise awareness.  In this case it spiraled out of control and a lot of people were talking trash about each other.  Isolating this post is taking it out of context.  Most of the people on AR who were trashing other members (by name) were not kicked off.  Not to mention one extremely racist blogger that was kicked off and now I see is reinstated (racism is much worse than Texas bashing, IMO).  I don&#039;t participate in the political blogs (I quit!), and I don&#039;t associate with any of the vile people who were going after Terry even in other groups or on other subjects.  However, I do think it is inappropriate to take a blog from a political group and use it out of context.  This was a piece in a much larger puzzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was mostly responding to the comments, Jeremy.  Also, blogging about political topics is not done to create business but to raise awareness.  In this case it spiraled out of control and a lot of people were talking trash about each other.  Isolating this post is taking it out of context.  Most of the people on AR who were trashing other members (by name) were not kicked off.  Not to mention one extremely racist blogger that was kicked off and now I see is reinstated (racism is much worse than Texas bashing, IMO).  I don&#8217;t participate in the political blogs (I quit!), and I don&#8217;t associate with any of the vile people who were going after Terry even in other groups or on other subjects.  However, I do think it is inappropriate to take a blog from a political group and use it out of context.  This was a piece in a much larger puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Blanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe Jay, sorry for stealing your thunder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe Jay, sorry for stealing your thunder.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I was going to craft a response to Terry&#039;s latest comment, but Jeremy pretty much covered it.

Terry, sorry you feel I besmirched your reputation. Perhaps you might want to consider the probability of that happening when you first besmirch the reputation of an entire state....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I was going to craft a response to Terry&#8217;s latest comment, but Jeremy pretty much covered it.</p>
<p>Terry, sorry you feel I besmirched your reputation. Perhaps you might want to consider the probability of that happening when you first besmirch the reputation of an entire state&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Blanton</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsonsocialmedia.com/no-wonder-people-from-texas-sound-so-ill-informed/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 02:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we seriously back into this again?  I guess someone must have Googled her name or something.  

Terry-Here are some main points you are missing:
1. Jay was making the point that you were on a network that has a main goal of real estate related content.  When he looked back through, there wasn&#039;t really anything related to what the goals of the network has in your posts.  So the stuff you were contributing was actually hurting the overall effectiveness of the network &amp; the 170,000+ members.  When you write your political rants it dilutes down the density of RE related stuff and makes the Google juice less potent.  

2.  The second point he is making is that if someone makes blanket statements that includes an entire state &amp; wants to try to portray the article as facts, then it is really important to have the content to cite.  This is the only credibility you have when making generalized statements about an entire state.  If there was some post, some newspaper article, or something else that backed up your point, then not as many would have been offended.

Here are some more thoughts of my own:

1.  Going for shock &amp; awe is sometimes an effective tool for marketing.  However insulting others normally doesn&#039;t gain many new friends or business dealings.  I am sure the reason you blogged on AR was because you were hoping for more biz.  If not, then I guess you just had a lot of time on your hands &amp; liked arguing with others.  But if the first assumption is true, then softer approaches will normally bring better results.  You can say the same things, but as I was constantly told once by a boss: &quot;A grain of sugar goes a whole lot farther than a grain of salt.&quot;

2.  I agree 100% with Jay&#039;s points about being on another network.  One of the main principles of AR &amp; rules is that you should not personally attack others.  While you didn&#039;t call out one person in specific, you called out an entire state which IMO is just as bad if not worse.

3.  I also agree with another statement that was made in the beginning post. If you want to have a place to control &amp; say your rants &amp; things, I would strongly suggest investing in your own blogging platform like wordpress or blogger.  Because if you go to other networks, they will probably give you the same result as AR, a banishment.  Unless of course you find a political platform to use.

One other thing for both Terry &amp; Chris, one thing that both of you misunderstand is that Jay didn&#039;t just single out Terry.  And he wasn&#039;t bashing AR or the other content on there.  As he stated, he was one of the original members of AR.  Probably knows as much about the network as I do or anyone else that has or currently works there. Also, he is probably one of the most well respected bloggers in the Real Estate industry.  If I would dare to say it, I would call him an authority on it.  

This all came about because he harnessed the focus when he began blogging and because of that, it has made him a rather successful agent, broker, owner in Phoenix, AZ.  

Lastly, I want to pose this question:  The time that was spent writing all these political posts that had nothing to do with home staging, real estate, or anything related to the industry, do you honestly feel that they brought you the maximum return on investment?  OR do you feel that if the posts were focused on these type of topics instead they might bring greater results.  My guess is that it would have brought much more income to your pocket as well as a whole lot less nights of stressful commenting &amp; arguments with others online. 

So in closing, please realize, this isn&#039;t a personal attack, it is more a learning experience that Jay has tried to share with others in the industry that look up to him.  Unfortunately, you were just the person that gave him the material to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we seriously back into this again?  I guess someone must have Googled her name or something.  </p>
<p>Terry-Here are some main points you are missing:<br />
1. Jay was making the point that you were on a network that has a main goal of real estate related content.  When he looked back through, there wasn&#8217;t really anything related to what the goals of the network has in your posts.  So the stuff you were contributing was actually hurting the overall effectiveness of the network &amp; the 170,000+ members.  When you write your political rants it dilutes down the density of RE related stuff and makes the Google juice less potent.  </p>
<p>2.  The second point he is making is that if someone makes blanket statements that includes an entire state &amp; wants to try to portray the article as facts, then it is really important to have the content to cite.  This is the only credibility you have when making generalized statements about an entire state.  If there was some post, some newspaper article, or something else that backed up your point, then not as many would have been offended.</p>
<p>Here are some more thoughts of my own:</p>
<p>1.  Going for shock &amp; awe is sometimes an effective tool for marketing.  However insulting others normally doesn&#8217;t gain many new friends or business dealings.  I am sure the reason you blogged on AR was because you were hoping for more biz.  If not, then I guess you just had a lot of time on your hands &amp; liked arguing with others.  But if the first assumption is true, then softer approaches will normally bring better results.  You can say the same things, but as I was constantly told once by a boss: &#8220;A grain of sugar goes a whole lot farther than a grain of salt.&#8221;</p>
<p>2.  I agree 100% with Jay&#8217;s points about being on another network.  One of the main principles of AR &amp; rules is that you should not personally attack others.  While you didn&#8217;t call out one person in specific, you called out an entire state which IMO is just as bad if not worse.</p>
<p>3.  I also agree with another statement that was made in the beginning post. If you want to have a place to control &amp; say your rants &amp; things, I would strongly suggest investing in your own blogging platform like wordpress or blogger.  Because if you go to other networks, they will probably give you the same result as AR, a banishment.  Unless of course you find a political platform to use.</p>
<p>One other thing for both Terry &amp; Chris, one thing that both of you misunderstand is that Jay didn&#8217;t just single out Terry.  And he wasn&#8217;t bashing AR or the other content on there.  As he stated, he was one of the original members of AR.  Probably knows as much about the network as I do or anyone else that has or currently works there. Also, he is probably one of the most well respected bloggers in the Real Estate industry.  If I would dare to say it, I would call him an authority on it.  </p>
<p>This all came about because he harnessed the focus when he began blogging and because of that, it has made him a rather successful agent, broker, owner in Phoenix, AZ.  </p>
<p>Lastly, I want to pose this question:  The time that was spent writing all these political posts that had nothing to do with home staging, real estate, or anything related to the industry, do you honestly feel that they brought you the maximum return on investment?  OR do you feel that if the posts were focused on these type of topics instead they might bring greater results.  My guess is that it would have brought much more income to your pocket as well as a whole lot less nights of stressful commenting &amp; arguments with others online. </p>
<p>So in closing, please realize, this isn&#8217;t a personal attack, it is more a learning experience that Jay has tried to share with others in the industry that look up to him.  Unfortunately, you were just the person that gave him the material to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Haugen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Haugen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Jay I&#039;m just wondering why you picked my blog to pick on, given there was one written right before mine that referred to Moslem&#039;s as towel heads.  If you&#039;re going for the sensational on your site, maybe you should read other postings on AR.  You chastize me for blogging non real estate information, whilst you apparently condone others doing the same.  Actually in reality by posting my blog, out of context. with your &quot;opinion&quot; for others to comment on, I feel you are besmearching my reputation.  I dont think thats allowed in the blogosphere now is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Jay I&#8217;m just wondering why you picked my blog to pick on, given there was one written right before mine that referred to Moslem&#8217;s as towel heads.  If you&#8217;re going for the sensational on your site, maybe you should read other postings on AR.  You chastize me for blogging non real estate information, whilst you apparently condone others doing the same.  Actually in reality by posting my blog, out of context. with your &#8220;opinion&#8221; for others to comment on, I feel you are besmearching my reputation.  I dont think thats allowed in the blogosphere now is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry - I don&#039;t think one post here, written almost three months ago, on a blog that&#039;s hardly read counts as &quot;famous on the internet&quot;.

&quot;If any of you had any idea about AR...&quot;

Well, there we go again. Actually, I do know quite a bit about AR. I was one of the first members of AR and, not that it matters one iota, wrote the first blog post of substance on AR. 

Just because there are other off-topic posts there doesn&#039;t make what you wrote appropriate. 

And you have no idea what news sources I subscribe to. 

Chris - I agree with you that off-topic posts help keep a blog from being boring. Ironically I gave a presentation today at the Denver RE WordCamp and off-topic posts were a main component of that presentation.

But caustic, offensive posts don&#039;t have any place on a network that thousands of people belong to (in my opinion). If Terry wants to rant, more power to her. I just happen to think she should do it on her own blog, not what is effectively a community platform. You and Terry obviously disagree. And there is nothing wrong with that.

I no longer live in Texas, so I can&#039;t argue to the &quot;Facts&quot; in what Terry wrote. I did notice when it was published that Terry had absolutely no links to any of these &#039;&quot;facts&quot; and when I asked here about that in a comment, was attacked. 

If a blogger is going to post &quot;facts&quot;, they should cite the source of said facts. Otherwise there is zero credibility and while it could indeed be factual, it comes off sounding like a rant. Making further attacks on commenters just for aksing for links to the sources also tends to make people feel it&#039;s an unfounded rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry &#8211; I don&#8217;t think one post here, written almost three months ago, on a blog that&#8217;s hardly read counts as &#8220;famous on the internet&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;If any of you had any idea about AR&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, there we go again. Actually, I do know quite a bit about AR. I was one of the first members of AR and, not that it matters one iota, wrote the first blog post of substance on AR. </p>
<p>Just because there are other off-topic posts there doesn&#8217;t make what you wrote appropriate. </p>
<p>And you have no idea what news sources I subscribe to. </p>
<p>Chris &#8211; I agree with you that off-topic posts help keep a blog from being boring. Ironically I gave a presentation today at the Denver RE WordCamp and off-topic posts were a main component of that presentation.</p>
<p>But caustic, offensive posts don&#8217;t have any place on a network that thousands of people belong to (in my opinion). If Terry wants to rant, more power to her. I just happen to think she should do it on her own blog, not what is effectively a community platform. You and Terry obviously disagree. And there is nothing wrong with that.</p>
<p>I no longer live in Texas, so I can&#8217;t argue to the &#8220;Facts&#8221; in what Terry wrote. I did notice when it was published that Terry had absolutely no links to any of these &#8216;&#8221;facts&#8221; and when I asked here about that in a comment, was attacked. </p>
<p>If a blogger is going to post &#8220;facts&#8221;, they should cite the source of said facts. Otherwise there is zero credibility and while it could indeed be factual, it comes off sounding like a rant. Making further attacks on commenters just for aksing for links to the sources also tends to make people feel it&#8217;s an unfounded rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  I&#039;m laughing right now because it is obvious none of you know Terry or what was going on around this post.  As for Active Rain political posts, they have always been there and there have always been some that were hateful, and many comments that were hateful.  It&#039;s not new.  Also, if not for off topic blogs Active Rain (blogging in general) would be completely boring.  That is why there are many blogs off topic.  Not just political.

What&#039;s amazing to me is that none of you are discussing the actual post... the Texas School Board altering history books.  Public school books are already (as admitted even by those who write them) very vague and incomplete, and to make them even more so is a horrible thing.  Thoughts on the actual point of the post?  Or just comments on the one sentence?  Personally I would have been much more direct with that line and said, &quot;No wonder some vile bigots in Texas are so ignorant.&quot; I may have even named them, as they repeatedly did to her in their blogs.

I am baffled that one sentence would bring on such a response.  I am from California, I love California.  I don&#039;t get offended when someone says something about California.  I certainly wouldn&#039;t tweet and reblog them.  I guess I just don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I&#8217;m laughing right now because it is obvious none of you know Terry or what was going on around this post.  As for Active Rain political posts, they have always been there and there have always been some that were hateful, and many comments that were hateful.  It&#8217;s not new.  Also, if not for off topic blogs Active Rain (blogging in general) would be completely boring.  That is why there are many blogs off topic.  Not just political.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s amazing to me is that none of you are discussing the actual post&#8230; the Texas School Board altering history books.  Public school books are already (as admitted even by those who write them) very vague and incomplete, and to make them even more so is a horrible thing.  Thoughts on the actual point of the post?  Or just comments on the one sentence?  Personally I would have been much more direct with that line and said, &#8220;No wonder some vile bigots in Texas are so ignorant.&#8221; I may have even named them, as they repeatedly did to her in their blogs.</p>
<p>I am baffled that one sentence would bring on such a response.  I am from California, I love California.  I don&#8217;t get offended when someone says something about California.  I certainly wouldn&#8217;t tweet and reblog them.  I guess I just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Haugen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Haugen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW Thanks folks for making me famous on the internet.  If any of you had any idea about AR you&#039;d know there are hundreds of non real estate related groups, and people post all kinds of things from news, to personal opinions, to stories about their dogs and cats.  Apparently all of you found factual news &quot;offensive.&quot;  I&#039;m not surprised.  I&#039;m quite sure you all subscribe to FOX news!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW Thanks folks for making me famous on the internet.  If any of you had any idea about AR you&#8217;d know there are hundreds of non real estate related groups, and people post all kinds of things from news, to personal opinions, to stories about their dogs and cats.  Apparently all of you found factual news &#8220;offensive.&#8221;  I&#8217;m not surprised.  I&#8217;m quite sure you all subscribe to FOX news!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent a copy of her blog to every Texas blogger I could find, including a few AR staff members. I was not only offended, but highly annoyed at her arrogance. Crouch tomahawked her pretty damn good. It&#039;s a shame she didn&#039;t have the guts to leave it up. Don&#039;t mess with Texas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent a copy of her blog to every Texas blogger I could find, including a few AR staff members. I was not only offended, but highly annoyed at her arrogance. Crouch tomahawked her pretty damn good. It&#8217;s a shame she didn&#8217;t have the guts to leave it up. Don&#8217;t mess with Texas!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Winfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Winfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 04:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow....

That&#039;s really all that can be said. Using the wrong platform to destroy business relationships is really all she accomplished. And most likely, (and hopefully we might add), her business will suffer for it. AR is no place for completely off-topic rants and stereotypes of people.

Thanks for capturing the entire post before it came down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s really all that can be said. Using the wrong platform to destroy business relationships is really all she accomplished. And most likely, (and hopefully we might add), her business will suffer for it. AR is no place for completely off-topic rants and stereotypes of people.</p>
<p>Thanks for capturing the entire post before it came down.</p>
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